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Hi, I'm in the process of opening a float center, and I'm doing research as to what tanks/pods to use. I've narrowed it down to the new Float Pod, or the model from Float ES. The Float Pod runs about $19,000, while the one from Float ES runs about $25,000, which includes salt, shipping,and installation.


Has anyone had the chance to experience a float in either of these? Are there any concerns/drawbacks, or positive aspects to each? I think a previous post mentioned possible light leaks in the Float Pod. Any information would be appreciated.

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I am new here. We own the second Float Pod off the factory line. We have been operational now for 10 weeks. We are averaging around 3200.00 a month gross at about 40% occupancy and growing. We designed our studio to accommodate 5 float systems with showers and private bathrooms. So far we are very satisfied with our Float Pod. It has been easy to maintain and the water is very very stable. Customers are very responsive with a lot of good positive feedback. Most tanks have some light infiltration, the secret is to have a dark room to begin with. We have not had any issues with the intercom system, or the light system working correctly. The filtration system works fine. The skimmer on any system is going to take some time to skim, filter the surface. We simply use a small pool skimmer net to quickly go over the surface between customers to assure that we have caught any stray hairs in the water. You would, should, do this with any and every system. The Float Pod system heats during filtration AND most importantly while floating. This is very important in a busy studio. I do not believe that filtration or bubbles during floating would be beneficial to the objective. Sensory Deprivation. Any moving water will cause you to move in the water and collide ever so slowly with one wall or the other. I believe Bubbles would be a nuisance. The semi conscious state of mind is a very subtle and fleeting thing. The very slightest input will shatter the moment.
I did a lot of research for 5 years before buying my first Pod. I have found the Float Pod to be a good value, a fair price, and an easy system to use with very good client feedback. Nick and Royal Spa both have been very responsive in answering questions and giving advice. TrueRest has many years of actual retail experience. Perhaps the most successful float center in the country. They are a valuable ally in the effort.
This whole Float thing is just now beginning to ramp up and several people are going to be getting to the fracas. My advise is to not trust or believe any drawings. It is very easy to make a beautiful drawing. Making a functional practical pod from the drawing is yet another issue. Royal Spa has been in business for many many years and will be there to back the warranty for many years to come. Over the next 5 or 6 years there will be a lot of failed start ups ( manufacturers ) in this business. You want to be careful that you do not end up owning a float pod from a company that is out of business in two years.
We are preparing to purchase our second system to be better accommodate peak float times.
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i did this Float-ES and achieved total deprivation... I didnt collide (apparently the returniing water is designed to keep you centered)- also oxygen bubble were totally awesome- my skin drank them up... good luck
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I too am considering a couple of tank for a new float center. I am also uneasy about float pod, they would need to make me feel very comfortable. I do like the design and idea. US & warranty. i-sopod awesome but there is a cost barrier. I like the Genesis Float pod and am waiting to hear back from them. I am curious as to when they will be ready.
Have you all seen this craziness http://www.floatcompany.com/index.php
how do you all feel about Floataway? the seem small at the feet.
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Hi Whister, that sounds like a great idea, I wish I could test all of them out first hand. I came across the Escape Pod http://www.escapepodtank.com/index.html. At about $7,000 (with added UV filtration), it's definitely more affordable, and one option I might have to strongly consider. I'm going to email them now about specifics - light leaks, condensation dripping, maintenance, warranty, etc.
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Thanks Caleb, there are actually none on Oahu. The one in Haleiwa (Oahu) is not in operation. The other locations in Hawaii are on different islands (Maui and the Big Island). I am in Honolulu, the biggest (and only) city in Hawaii on the island of Oahu.
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I hear you! We actually plan to test-float in each of the pods on our shortlist and will be doing a lot of research to make sure we chose wisely. With four pods times $2X,XXX, it is a huge investment and such an integral part of the business. Choosing products that are new to market and with so few users makes it really tough.

Interesting about the FloatES and constant filtration. I would want to hear more about the float experience with moving water before I'm sold on the idea.
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The maps usually show quite a few centers in Hawaii. They all closed or something?
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Sorry - only three showing up here. I thought I remembered more: http://floatationlocations.com/category/united-states/hawaii/
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It's interesting, this process. It's almost like buying a new car without ever test driving it or even seeing it in person (for me at least, being in Hawaii with no other float centers)
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Thanks Christian,

The Float ES actually filters constantly, even when floating, thus the lower gal/min rate. It's so it doesn't disturb the floater. The guy who does them, Kirk, told me that we should think of it like an aquarium. If you only filtered the water 3 times every hour pushing it through a filter really fast, then the water wouldn't be as good, wouldn't filter as good, and fish wouldn't be as happy as if the water were filtered constantly. There's also a button to push for little oxygen bubbles, which he said was like 1/50th of the size of champagne bubbles. Said it feels good. Really good. Probably oxygenates the body too. He also went to the float conference in Oregon recently, he said some of the pod designs leave too little room by the feet - sometimes the feet hit the sides or edges, disturbing the floater. He also said they are working out some kinks too, like a very small light leak - needs a tighter seal.

I'll look up Dream Pod in a sec. Thanks for your response and let's keep each other updated as we go.
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Hey guys, good to be part of this message board. This is Mike Zev from Dreamwater Float Co. We are the manufacturers of the Dreampod. Feel free to contact me anytime if you have any questions regarding our pod. I am always available via Skype (cooldraw) , or via email This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. Thanks a bunch! M
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Hey Geoff,

I'm afraid I haven't floated in either of those, but we're in the same boat, researching float pods for our center here in Canada and here are my thoughts.

As Caleb noted, the Float Pod is still quite new and it appears there are some issues. I know from talking to the people involved that each pod off the line will improve, and the one Caleb floated in was probably only 4th or 5th, so hopefully things will get better and better. They offer a good warranty and the company manufacturing it is large and stable so should be around to support in the future.

My hesitation with the Float ES is the interior dimensions of 45" x 84" To my mind, 45" is just too narrow, and I would put this more in the "tank" category than pod. I also worry that their 9 gal/min pump is underpowered and won't get you 3 full turns of the water between clients.

We're seriously considering the Genesis Float Pod from James Ramsey in Virginia. He's spec'd his pod with a 70 gal/min pump, 100,000 gallon ozone system with scrubber, and a beefy UV system. It is overbuilt, but this suits me just fine. He also started from scratch on the fiberglass pod, ensuring that the interior surface is easy to keep clean with no seams or ridges. The interior is a roomy 69" x 106" so lots of room to stretch out.

You might also look into the Dream Pod. It looks well thought out, but does lack constant heat (maybe not an issue in Hawaii?) Shipping from China might work out the same as from Indianapolis or Virginia for you!

Please let us know what you decide to go with, and all the best!

Christian
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Thank you. I'm sure they're working out the kinks, but not something I'm willing to invest $20,000 to "test out". I don't mind the i-Sopod similarities, as i-Sopod ships all the way from Europe to Hawaii, so that's out of the question. I like the design, it seems very attractive to potential floaters, but not worth the kinks. I need total sensory dep.
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